Lottery Syndicates Work: FACT!

There is one undeniable truth about lottery syndicates. They work. By doing exactly what they promise. In fact, they cannot fail to work. Because the …

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  • Allan

    Hi, joined Love My Lotto in march and already seeing rewards from playing as part of a syndicate! I currently have winnings totalling £25.00 in my wallet section, which if I had continued to play on my own via the national lottery im sure my total wins would not match this. Great value for money.

  • Adrian

    How does this work? I mean, if we are pooling our money together, and buying lots of tickets, how do we know you won’t run off with the big jackpot? It’s not like we can sign our name to the ticket or anything.

    • LG

      Hey Adrian

      Well mainly because I don’t currently run any syndicates that you can join… so I’m not going to be running off with anything. 🙂

      But when it comes to playing with syndicate companies (like the ones I mention above), you just have to take a few sensible precautions. I’ve played with all of these so I know a bit about them. I know the companies, I know their contact details, and I know exactly what tickets I’m playing before the draws.

      Could they try and skip the country with our jackpot? They could, but would they want to risk 20 years behind bars? I doubt it!

      A little trust is always necessary in life at some point, just like when you buy a ticket from the lottery company itself. Just take the usual sensible precautions when deciding who to play with, and you should be fine.

  • Gary Farms

    Guess what?

    I just bought some Mega Millions lottery tickets this morning.

    To my amazement they significangtly increased the range of numbers, and the odds of winning. It’s now:
    1-75 + 1-15 (for mega ball). The odds went from 1:175 million to 1:260 million! This is a 33% increase in the chances of not hitting the jackpot. Can you believe this? I guess 1:175 million was too easy.

    The odds just keep getting more and more ridiculous. Hopefully people will stop or reduce playing, and this greedy logic will backfire on the lottery commission.

    Your comments welcome.

    • LG

      I know – it’s crazy isn’t it.

      It’s all about getting the biggest rollover jackpots – trying to beat out Powerball. So you’re right, it’s absolutely about greed as big rollovers is what sells more tickets.

      Which is why choosing the right game to play is key to overall lottery strategy. Most players just get hypnotised by the shiny big jackpots and never consider if the game is the best choice.

    • Tom

      I have a friend who worked for the Florida Lottery. I asked him once, “when the jackpot rolls to, say, 60 million, why not just give 30 lucky people a couple million each instead of one lucky guy 60 million that is almost (notice I did say almost) more than he could ever spend anyway”? His answer was- people that can’t be bothered buying a ticket for 4 million will stand in line to buy when the jackpot is huge. And he was right of course. So from the Lottery’s point of view mega prizes- and mega odds- make sense.

  • Dee

    But how do we know these players in the pool really exist? What if we are being charged at a higher rate and really there is only a handful of people playing decreasing our odds, yet we are still paying a price increase to increase our odds by number of players? If the JP is hit, who is really pocketing the proceeds if they say there are 120 playing when there really isn’t? New to this so naturally I am skeptical. Why wouldn’t they allow a community thread for folks participating in various syndicates to gather and talk. Something else I find odd is not listing winnings. They don’t have to name names but just like my local lottery, why wouldn’t they list how many tickets matched winning amounts per drawing for each syndicate. I would think they would want to show those numbers to folks to show how playing in numbers increases your odds to win on various levels.

    I forgot to add, I am in the usa so the only one i can play is WinTrillions… so this is the site I was referencing.

    • LG

      With some syndicates it does matter – if the group is not full you get less of a winnings boost. But others (like Wintrillions) fund any ’empty’ slots themselves. So you will always get the full odds boost. And if they fund part of a group that gets a jackpot, then I believe they would get that proportion of the winnings – which is only fair really 🙂

      Providing a forum or community for customers is always a tricky thing. You immediately have to dedicate someone to policing the community, and making sure everyone behaves themselves, so it’s just a cost and hassle I guess.

      As for publishing winnings figures, I agree, that would be nice 🙂

  • Francis

    I just bought a share in a Wintrillions group, but they don’t tell you how many people are in the group. How can I find out?

    • LG

      They do – it’s in the main information page for each syndicate option. If you look in the FAQ section towards the bottom of the page under ‘How Does It Work’ you should find it. But if you’re still not sure, their support team are quick to reply. They also have live chat support on the site too.

  • Tom

    With the FACTA law going into effect July 1st how does that affect players from the USA?

    • LG

      Hi Tom

      Doesn’t that bill just apply to financial institutions i.e. banks, pensions, stock brokers etc? I don’t think a syndicate could be seen as a financial institution?

  • Thraves

    Syndicates do work providing their entries are planned i.e. they cover the odds of whatever prize they want to win. For example the odds for winning the £25 is 57/1 so they need 57 planned entries to be more or less guaranteed to get a win.
    If entries are planned then covering either all or only a part of the odds then this formula is can be your guide; Entries used x games played/the odds of a prize; therefore a syndicate of
    25 entries x 3 games/57 = 1 win on average every 3 games or to be accurate 75/57 = 1.3 so every 9 games 4 wins etc.,
    I also place entries over the 14m combinations at set intervals to be sure I always have at least one entry as close to a winning draw as it can possible be using the ‘Venn diagram’ logic.

    • LG

      I get what you’re saying, but it’s still possible to play 57 entries and still not win a match 3 prize week after week. Because of course we’re talking ‘on average’ here. So if a syndicate played 56 entries (or 58) they would get pretty much the same results.

      You can also play with a wheel that provides a suitable ‘minimum win guarantee’ which is a useful improvement. Or you could play with one that provides full number coverage, but the world record takes 163 entries to guarantee a 3 ball win on a 6/49 game like the UK Lotto.

      • Thraves

        I experimented using 64 and 49 entries and over 500 games they both kept to the expected formula result due mostly to the ‘Venn diagram’ system which spreads entries evenly over the whole 14m combinations at intervals of 14m/64 or /49. Any winning draw has its own ‘Venn diagram’ so my 64 or 49 diagrams are waiting for that winning Venn to land on one of mine, its tricky to plan but it works!

  • Anh

    Hey brilliant blog. I won €4k on the Thunderball last year.

    Cheers from Chile.

  • Earl Blankenship

    I live in Ga and like to play Fantasy 5. I understand that the jackpots are smaller, but I think the odds are better. (A $100,000 win would not make me unhappy). Do you know of any groups/syndicates playing Fantasy 5? Thanks, Earl

    • LG

      Hi Earl,

      If the jackpot is big enough for you then it’s not a bad choice to play (would it still be enough after sharing between a group?). I’m not aware of any syndicate that plays Ga Fantasy 5, but maybe someone else will spot your comment who runs one.

  • Murray Cooper

    The stats maths says the odds are too difficult to overcome with any system (real or imaginery) BUT syndicates do offer more potential. Now the twist.
    The generally lower level prize pools(should you win) do not cover the ticket cost!
    Its the casino concept! House always wins (over time) with only a (potential!) 90 cent return on your buck.
    The secret: Ok, you syndicate into the occasional lottery draws that offer larger lower level pools. Eg in Australia occasionally they offer 2 x or 3 x prize payout on all lower level prize pools. Now hit one of these with a system 19 (syndicate), 6+2/45 and the payouts really balloon especially if you get the +2 amongst the 19! spread across 100 syndicate shares. But they are rare offerings and are offered only to maintain the interest! ie (occasionally) reward the losing punters and they are run by the organiser (Tatts) and they can cost you $500 just for a single share. But if you can get amongst the “drawns” the multiplier effect kicks in. Yeaaahhh.
    For the record, my maths says the system 17 at $75 for one share in 110 offers the best potential return for the lower divisions exceeding the returns of system 18’s and 19’s. And now that I have posted this, Tatts will change the payout rates!
    If anyone has further interest then contact me thru this link
    Luck, I have heaps of it … mostly bad!

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