When Is Random Really Random..?

When you’re playing the lottery random matters. Because you want to know that you have a fair chance of winning. There are an awful lot of peopl…

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When Is Random Really Random..?

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  • Paul

    I bought the WinLotto system and it does make sense on randomness. However, I kept getting emails saying that you could play 200 games for 50 bucks in Australia? Well mate if you’re real I live here and there ain’t no Lotto here that you can play 200 games for 50 bucks? 200 games at 25 cents the Professor says or Collard not sure who is real looks like a lot of hogwash? This also looks like a scam? If Collard created this how come the Professor says he has been playing it for more than 12 years? Why is this software coming from Australia? Is it because there is no way to verify the address being “down under”? 24 million people seem to be the best lotto developers in the world compared to Indias 1.3 billion/Chinas 1.5 billion/350 million USA/200 million Indonesia who cannot develop one Lotto software for sale. I think not fishy business these sellers.

    • LG

      Not sure what this has to do with the post above about randomness..?

      But anyway. I think you’re confusing various different people and systems. I don’t know the emails you mean, but it sounds like maybe it’s a syndicate group? Probably best not to shout ‘scam’ until you understand what’s being offered. As far as I know Will doesn’t run a syndicate, so maybe those emails are from someone else. If you send me one I’ll check it out.

      You total lost me on the rest. I don’t know why you think people in Australia can’t write good software, or why you think addresses can’t be verified there..?

  • Saquib

    By the way, in the Fantasy 5 drawing yesterday, numbers were 10, 22, 23, 24, 25. Random is as random does!

  • Jo

    Powerball drawn on 10-4-2014 only one winner in whole of AUSTRALIA $40,000,000.00. Forty million to the winner – must be a relative of Tatts. Second division always has lots of winners so they get less money. There was 36 winners in second division, they got $22,598.20.

    There is always an hour before the draw is drawn. That gives their computer system analyser company that Tatts group owns as a seperate company time to analyse all tickets/numbers prior to each draw so they control who wins. The draw is never open to the public to see or attend live lotto draws. Corrupted, corrupted all Tatts lotto games in Australia.

    • LG

      Hi Jo,

      So your only evidence for the Australian lottery being corrupt is that only 1 person won? For a draw that has odds of 1-in-76 MILLION..?

      Hmm, not compelling evidence πŸ™‚

      Tatts make plenty of money running a fair draw. Why would they bother or risk doing anything else? Makes no sense to me.

  • Thrifty

    Lottery quick Picks clustering is the right term. The probability is the same for every combination. Take a look at this winning ticket. http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1210921!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-powerball-winners2-1130.jpg

    Yes someone a powerball lottery jackpot with those quick picks clustering. Can you please write an article about lottery Quick Picks Clustering. Thanks.

  • Tony

    The lottery is rigged in Australia. I have visited many newsagents and always chat to the owner/operator about when they last sold a division 1 ticket. They all tell me the same thing, several years ago BEFORE tatts took over from Golden Casket. You only have to look at the numbers that come up to see that it is rigged. Powerball is the biggest rigged followed closely by oz lotto then the mid week draws which constantly repeat the same numbers. You also only have to look at the fact that nearly all the division 1 tickets are sold to people who apparantly reside in the middle of no where. Canberra, wagga wagga etc. There should be a class action law suit against tatts and ask them to prove who these so called winners and check their phone records to see if they have had conversations with tatts management or employees.

    • LG

      Hi Tony

      Much as I love a conspiracy theory – there isn’t really any evidence here at all πŸ™‚

      Because even if you’ve visited dozens of newsagents that’s still only a tiny percentage of those selling tickets in all of Australia so it doesn’t really tell you anything. Also bearing in mind how many newsagents there are, how often on average should you expect any particular one to sell a division 1 winning ticket? Every few months, once a year, every 10 years..? Without that information you can’t even begin to judge if anything unusual is happening. And the interesting thing about proper random results is that they can repeat, they can make patterns, they can come out all sequential numbers etc – because if those things could NOT happen then that would not be a random draw. As for winners being in the middle of nowhere, I don’t think Canberra is a good example as it’s Australia’s 8th largest city..!?

      Sorry, I’m just not seeing it πŸ™‚

      • Tony

        Pffh is that the best you can do is it? You must be a paid stooge from Tatts to try and articulate a response that has a wafer thin veneer of statistical intellect bound to it… now for some real facts. Population of Canberra 330000… population of Sydney 4.4 million! Nearly 15 times the size! One doesn’t need to visit every newsagent in Sydney to get the necessary insight into where these (so called) winners are located, a simple review of the tatts websites “winners stories ” section shows a the majority of the big jackpot winners reside in tiny country towns like Mildura (population 30 odd thousand), Sunraysia, Wagga. These 3 places alone have had some 6 plus jackpots in recent times! Each place is miniscule when compared to Sydney or Melbourne and would thus sell far fewer tickets. These events defy the law of averages only furthering suspicion. The reason for this is clear. Tatts does it so that if anyone were to investigate these winners they would be hampered by the perceived significant distance required to travel to these remote locations. So this way Tatts riggs the draws, no real winners exist, the anonymity that is given serves Tatts because they dont need to prove the jackpots were paid out. If any real tickets were soold to people in these location the lower socio economic status would create a greater likelihood that these people would lose the ticket anyway. In any event either way, the draws are rigged so as to serve Tatts interest only. From the point of view of the draw you only have to look at a game like Powerball where for the past 6 months you can observe that nearly a quarter of the entire field of balls have either not been drawn or drawn twice at most! Numbers like 33, 28, 29 23 11 16 17 15 12 6… this is Not random! In fact this is clear evidence that the draw is rigged. I have simulated lottery draws and observed that when a number is absent for a long period and then goes from being a cold number to being drawn again that it will enter a period of consecutive or near consecutive redraws. Yet the numbers mentioned above all just disappear again when drawn almost never redrawing only to go back to the same numbers used week in week out.

      • LG

        Tony, from what you’ve just said you clearly don’t understand what random really means. But why let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory!

        Honestly, if you think it’s fixed then don’t play.

  • Judex

    On my Island, people are winning the Jackpots so often, almost every 4 weeks, that I really think they are Champions!

  • Stan

    β€œNo one can possibly win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn’t looking.” – Albert Einstein. The same can be said for lotto. You just can’t beat it as it’s a system designed to beat the players, anyone who tells you different knows very little about mathematics.

  • Mary

    I bought 4 easy pick lotto tickets tonight between Powerball and Mega Millions. Two of my easy picks included the draws 11-12-13-14-15-(15), and then 13-14-15-16-17-(17) =( What are the odds off that? My other two easy picks were numbers in exact increments of tens mixed with 2 sequential numbers 1-2-11-21-31-(10) (only # out of pattern) and 5-15-25-35-54-55-(05) can you calculate the chances of these 4 draws being pulled randomly at the same time? Maybe at least the two draws that were perfect sequences?

    • LG

      Hi Mary,

      Cool, just goes to show what random can do πŸ™‚

      The odds of it being those specific combinations are actually exactly the same as them being any other specific combination. The odds of them being something we see as a pattern are higher (because there’s more of those), but still far less than the odds of us not seeing a pattern (because there’s millions more of those!).

  • JDN

    Randomness, or the absence of it, is more likely connected to individual balls which do not conform exactly to the rest of the group. Air friction over a particular ball that may have a very tiny imperfection in its surface might be an example. The imperfection could alter its spin during the air-shuffling, causing it to be selected more times or fewer times than other balls. When the ball sets are changed, this imperfection would go away, causing a different variation which would affect results until that set is changed out.

  • John

    The TattsLotto is rigged how? It’s simple. Every time you play whether online or the outlet, the numbers go to the oracle database server housed in a datacenter and from there on the script checks which numbers have been used and which numbers been left out. They use fast servers to try every combination. Now it makes you think why they don’t show the live draws anymore. Thanks for the rigging.

    • LG

      Wouldn’t it just all be easier to run a legal and fair game where you just collect the guaranteed profits week after week? Without any risk of being sent to prison..?

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