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Jon // Nov 15, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I don’t know why the odds of hitting the jackpot are set at 1 in 175,711,536 ? That seems to be way too high and contradicts the n! principle of available combinations. Why is it not 1 in 21,085,384,320 as given by 56x55x54x53x52x46 ? I’m not interested in just hitting any winning number, but just that one jackpot number. Either case, a person’s chances of taking all the vacuum cleaner bag’s dust, compressing it infinitely, and creating their own little Universe is better than hitting the lottery. However, if one is not holding a number, then the odds are |O|,
LG // Nov 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm
Ah, that’s because the order the numbers are drawn out does not matter. So you also have to divide by the number of ways the same combinations can happen (if that makes sense) to eliminate them, before you multiply by the 46 – there’s an example in my odds of winning Mega Millions post.
Cynthia // Nov 28, 2012 at 7:10 pm
We must also take into account that before the official numbers are drawn the machine is checked for accuracy at least 3-4 times so you may have had the winning numbers in those draws. Just didnt count.
Twentyonefeet // Oct 23, 2013 at 12:40 am
How would doing drawings test for accuracy? Accuracy in what? You throw some balls in the machine, let it run long enough to mix em’ up, and then hit the button to let the balls pop out. And running it “3-4 times” sounds like it’s fixed for a particular result. Of course, I would not be surprised to learn there are little tiny electro-magnets in each ball that can be activated remotely.
Doug Boseman // Jun 4, 2013 at 5:56 pm
I had a theory about the balls with more paint on them being either more likely or less likely to come up or out (are the machines designed to account 4 weight) if not random is out of the question. Every edge is a lot of help add them all together and I have won the jackpot! What took yall so long to even discuss this?
LG // Jun 5, 2013 at 12:03 am
It would be great if we could rely on factors like this to give us even the tiniest edge :-).
But lottery companies have machines and balls built to very tight tolerances. They monitor and audit them. And they change/repair them without notifying us. You can even argue that heavier balls would wear faster and therefore end up losing any bias over time..!
Then there’s all the changeable factors we can’t even begin to monitor.
I’d love to join the ‘believers’, but (significantly) none of them have ever been able to prove any bias has given them an edge. And I just don’t love playing with spreadsheets enough to join them for the fun of it 😉
Brian // Jun 8, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Most of what you say is true. However, the past results do ,indeed, have something useful for us. Personally, I’ve been doing so with great success. In fact, if we didn’t rely on past draws then we would have very little to go on. Therefore, we have to .
LG // Jun 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm
Sorry Brian but in all my years I’ve never seen anyone prove any value in past results for prediction.
People often think they have ‘something’ but it always turns out to be either 1. they don’t know how to identify a significant result, or 2. they have convinced themselves that ‘it works sometimes’ which is just luck at play (and points to 1. again!).
Of course you may have something different… But in reality it’s totally logical that past results cannot help – it is the way the game is supposed to be by design. And any potential bias is so small and changeable itself that it’s totally untrackable in reality.
Larry // Aug 28, 2013 at 5:25 pm
I was just reading this on patterns. I’ve developed some code utilizing Excel and the past drawing numbers. I play mainly Texas Two Step and Powerball. I win Many small pots at least 6 times a month includIng $7, $100 and $10,000 so…, IMHO they paint a pretty picture.
LG // Aug 28, 2013 at 6:20 pm
But it doesn’t paint the whole picture though.
Last year a woman bought her first ever lottery ticket and won $1m on Powerball. If she said she used a spreadsheet to pick her numbers, would that mean she had a working system..?
I know that’s an extreme example. But the point is, you can’t say your spreadsheet makes any difference unless you prove there is some statistical significance to the results.
We’re easily drawn into placing extra significance on wins, but without the full picture I can only congratulate you on your luck – not your spreadsheet 🙂
For fun, why not also play the same number of quick picks alongside your spreadsheet based selections, and see how they compare? You don’t have to buy them, you can always just play them on paper.
Jl1358 // Jul 5, 2017 at 11:59 am
Similar to Larry’s original post what about strategies that focus on small wins and not the jackpot. In IL the local game plays twice a day by selecting 5/45. Selecting 5 of the 5 winning numbers of course gets you the jackpot. But getting 3 out of 5 gets you $15. if you look at this from a roi perspective say we could spend $10 to make $15. Sounds like a great return. This means we’d have ten chances to successfully pick 3 winning numbers and still get a 50% return. Has anyone tried to develop strategies to grind out small winnings consistently overtime?
LG // Jul 5, 2017 at 6:27 pm
If you could guarantee turning $10 into $15, then you’d spend as many $10 as you had every single time. But I get what you mean 🙂
It sounds like you’re describing wheeling systems. A well designed wheel will be optimised for certain conditional win guarantees. I recommend Bluskov’s book here for wheeling systems. Just forget anything you may have been told about wheeling – it’s typically vastly overhyped, but it is still useful.
Pascal // Apr 27, 2014 at 9:44 am
I believe in past result for a clue simply because past result can give you a particular pattern to stick to. All syndicates operators must build their system on a pattern that has won a jackpot before from the past results. The same theory is used by Wall Street gurus ie charts, graphs etc. I have a clue for EuroMillions but we will need at least 100 people to win the jackpot every month. Yes I mean it.
LG // Apr 27, 2014 at 6:33 pm
It would be nice if we could predict lottery numbers from past results, but nobody has ever been able to prove it (despite all the people selling systems that claim they can).
But good luck anyway 🙂
Danilo // Apr 14, 2015 at 7:33 pm
I understand your point that there might not be a significant pattern in balls being drawn as they all are equal. However, please remember that balls are labeled and arranged in x ways every time due to ball sets. In addition, at least in FL Fantasy 5, the chamber on the machine blows each ball at 400 cu/m and balls weigh 2 grams. With this setup in mind, don’t you think that a pattern is definitely possible? As speed, weight and ball sets are constant. The only thing that is manipulated and we all know is the prior “testing” to a game being drawn. I’ve been tracking this specific game for ten months now and have found that at least twice or three times a month a pattern of three out of five numbers will repeat itself. The goal here is to know when that specific pattern will play again and play all possible combinations for the two missing numbers which in this case is about 600 numbers. I dont spend my money every day but I do analyze this game on a daily basis. Oh and let’s not forget that d/t=v and so does v/t=d and so on. In short, for the Fantasy Five I do see a pattern that I am working on figuring out.
Danilo // Apr 14, 2015 at 7:45 pm
If the world revolves around the sun every 365 days and this pattern still continues. Then in my opinion, I have no doubt that lottery games have the same laws applied. For instance, if you look back at games played in the 1990’s when the Fantasy 5 was 5/26, amazingly you will find that many times winning numbers repeated. Then, ever since the game odds were increased I still have not seen five numbers repeat itself. But have surely seen 3 out 5 repeat itself very often.
LG // Apr 15, 2015 at 12:48 am
But the earth doesn’t have 35 other planets all colliding into it multiple times per second. So it’s orbit is fairly reliable 🙂
Steve // Mar 17, 2016 at 12:02 am
Do you know what I get the whole maths thing and can’t argue with it logically so I won’t try. I’m not sure though I believe it is truly random in fact I don’t think anything is, random that is. There has to be something influencing things, what, I don’t know. I haven’t checked this so Here’s a random comment to sit directly opposed to your NOT random lottery! The Number 13 I bet that’s languishing near the bottom of the list in the most drawn number stats in the majority of lotteries around the world. I hope to god I’m right as this goes against everything my normally logical brain is telling me and deserve all the slating that I’m going to get. If I’m wrong I’ll return with a sensible answer.
LG // Mar 19, 2016 at 7:21 pm
There’s no reason why no. 13 would be drawn any less than anything else – after all, what could possibly influence that? (If you swapped the numbers on ball 13 and ball 7 would that then change the effect..?)
But maybe you meant picked by players less often? Although if you’re thinking ‘unlucky’ number therefore it gets picked less, you also have to consider which countries lottery you’re playing because the concept of lucky numbers varies greatly depending on your culture – in Russia odd numbers are considered lucky, in Italy 13 is a lucky number. In China not only is 13 not recognised as unlucky, but 7 is also seen as unlucky!
There are also a lot of people who pick 13 because it is considered unlucky by many in the belief that therefore nobody plays it 🙂
Aristillus // Jan 12, 2017 at 7:08 am
It is important to understand that no one, and I really do mean ‘no one’ can design or come up with a system that can predict what numbers will be drawn, even factors of probability cannot be used to draw particular conclusions as to which numbers will be drawn. Every new draw holds the same probability value for each number. The only issue is that the probability of drawing a particular number increases with each drawn number. So for instance, you have six numbers picked and paid for towards the next lottery draw. Prior to the first number being drawn by the machine in a lottery that draws 6 main numbers and a 7th ball as a ‘bonus ball’, all numbers have the same probability value. So if the lottery is 6 from 49, the probability value for each number that could be drawn first is, remarkably enough, 1 in 49. When the first of the 7 numbers is drawn, the probability value for the next number becomes 1 in 48, and for the third drawn number it is 1 in 47, whilst the fourth is 1 in 46, the 5th is 1 in 45, the 6th is 1 in 44, and finally the 7th ball (as bonus ball) is 1 in 43. You cannot summarise a probability value that can score a target number to be draw so that one would pick it. Patterns of probability only emerge after the event, and with lotteries, they cannot and should not be used to try and identify numbers that might be drawn in the next round. Past results are not affective on present or next round of number drawings. With each round of new drawings, all probabilities reset to null values. Play the lottery for fun only, and never expect to win, only expect someone to win, and if you are very lucky, it might be you, but don’t count on it.
LG // Jan 12, 2017 at 8:31 pm
There is some wiggle room in this (the post is 9 years old!) – this is all true assuming a perfect random draw. Whether it is possible to operate a perfect random draw, and degrees of randomness is a whole other debate though.
Joe // Nov 1, 2017 at 4:04 pm
Past numbers are useful. You can check to see if you happen to have chosen a previous number set. What are the odds of the exact same number being drawn twice.
LG // Nov 1, 2017 at 5:43 pm
In pure maths terms – exactly the same chance as any other combination being drawn.
Just like when you roll a dice. If you roll a 6, what are the odds of getting a 6 again? Still 1 in 6 isn’t it 🙂
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