Comments on: Derren Brown Lottery – How It Was Really Done

By: Spiv

Spiv — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:10:40 +0000

DerekH, read that again:
“follow the money as they say… a guaranteed result for all parties.”

i.e., the lottery people make even more money than usual, and even more people than usual buy lottery tickets that don’t win.
That’s what is guaranteed.

By: Wilko

Wilko — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:42:26 +0000

The Wisdom of Crowds dupe for lottery numbers may increase sales of lottery tickets as many people don’t realise that lottery numbers have no actual mathematical value, they are effectively a ‘picture’ to differentiate the balls from each other. If you had a lottery that drew balls with photographs of Hollywood actors’ faces on them, how could you get averages of faces? The numbers are effectively images, not real numerical values.

By: DerekH

DerekH — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:40:02 +0000

Maxine wrote “but I wasn’t offering a guarantee”. Well, if you read my post more carefully, you’ll see that you did indeed use the word “guaranteed”, and I spent the opening section of my response trying to work out who was the guarantor. I went through all the possibilities, and deduced that it must be you. Now you’re saying it wasn’t.
Ah well.

Anyway, I’ll certainly be looking at the jackpot figures for recent and (when they’ve happened) for forthcoming lotteries, and yes, you may be right that lottery takings will go up. Ironically, it won’t be the *wisdom* of the crowds at play there

You are quite right that I would be guilty of being naive if I stated that powers that be never operate outside their permitted boundaries. I wasn’t clear that I was being specific to this draw, which will obviously have been watched much more carefully than most others.

You’re right that the real winner was Derren Brown, and “being glued to the sofa” (his next trick) might simply be “feeling compelled to watch” to see what next he’s up to… In which case up go his viewing figures again.

In the circumstances, we should perhaps stop bandying words around, call it a draw, Maxine, and share out the tiles

“I’d like to order some food please – put it on the slate…”

By: Maxine

Maxine — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:41:54 +0000

Sorry DerekH – but I wasn’t offering a WARRANTY or GUARANTEE from myself for anything -where did THAT come from? (duh)
Lets just say that Camelot and Derren Brown won’t be any the poorer after this bout of publicity. I thought that was the point I had made (..obviously not..)
AND I certainly was not duped – of course it was a trick – I simply offered an explanation of how it MAY have been done.
Whether or not it was a”set-up” such as I described – and rubbished by DerekH -matters not…. HOWEVER, it may be DerekH who has been duped, or is certainly gullible, if he truly thinks that ANY “powers that be”, have NEVER operated outside legally permitted boundaries for monetry gain!!
Get the roof tiles down – hope you are hungry Derek (lol)

By: Overkill

Overkill — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:46:09 +0000

His next program he’s going to glue me to my sofa! hmm… derrrrrr… I wonder if that will work? lol! OMG how easy is it for him to make money!

I might make my own program were I make everyone fly! It’s funny that there are some people that are so gullible

By: Overkill

Overkill — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:37:10 +0000

An almost mathematically impossible prediction of the future or a very simple camera trick? Hmmm… I can’t decide, lol.

By: Wes

Wes — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:02:02 +0000

I think Derren is having the greatest week of his life. Split screens, lasers, projection. All of the show is misguiding us – the fear decision making, the wisdom of the crowd. The last of which is non-sense for predicting random numbers from 1 – 24. Has anyone checked the real lotery results with the 3 – 4 right balls the 24 people guessed earlier? I think all the team-building was just to make them believe they could do it.

I don’t think Derren Brown is a person that would simply use high-end technology to fake us at home.

No, i think the sollution is much easier. From the beginning of the show, Derren says he´s being legal, that everything is live, that he spent a year of his life on this. Isn´t the sollution much much easier?

By: DerekH

DerekH — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:43:10 +0000

Maxine writes “a guaranteed result for all parties.”

Who’s providing the guarantee?
Derren Brown? No.
The gullible? No.
You? Well thanks Maxine! If you think it’s guaranteed, then please post a scan of your bank statement here in a week’s time.

Guaranteed result for all parties?
You carry on believing that then, and join the ranks of people sucked into to Derren Brown’s gullibility plug-hole

So please, if you win the lottery (5 out of 6 balls – that’s all he promised) – do tell.

And before you think I’m simply being destructive, ask yourself this one simple question…
If Derren Brown COULD predict the lottery, and because he “says” he was banned from buying a ticket (they don’t ask your name when you buy a ticket, do they?) don’t you think he’d have chosen a surrogate ticket-buyer and filmed HER reaction when she won..?

When Derren says “a year of his life has been devoted to this”, it’s rubbish.
I hereby state that I’ve spent FIVE years of my life replying to your post. I do. I really do state it.
I haven’t, and Derren Brown spent about 2 weeks of (yes, I admit it) gorgeously inspirational time planning it…

Maxine, the powers-that-be would NOT agree to operate outside their legally permitted boundaries for monetary gain.

Stop and think. You’ve not only be duped, but you’ve been *so* duped you’re mailing us and telling us rubbish!
I’ll eat my roof-tiles if *you* are right….

By: Maxine

Maxine — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:48:50 +0000

Split screen… pretty plausible… clever stuff. Derren states that a year of his life had been devoted to this. What about if he or his programme organisers managed to persuade and arrange with the BBC/Camelot to delay the live lottery results on Wednesday night by a couple of minutes or so.

OR, the “live” draw to take place a couple of minutes before the BBC Lottery programme actually went live. In which case the “24’s” numbers were disregarded and switched to the ACTUAL known result numbers (as per the arrangement) just before “The Event” went live. Now why would the “powers that be” agree to that? Well, think about it… firstly, how would that scenario really affect the result from the lottery organisers perspective? Secondly, THE HUGE PUBLICITY… how many more people are now going to get together to try and predict the lottery result; with the resultant INCREASE in lottery ticket sales due to the WISDOM OF THE CROWD experiment… follow the money as they say… a guaranteed result for all parties.

By: Overkill

Overkill — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:26:30 +0000

Lethe: lol, don’t you think millions of people might want their money back then?